Sin and evolution October 23, 2009
Posted by Damian in Biblical Exegesis and Interpretation, Evolution and Creation.Tags: Adam, blame god, christ, creates good and evil, darknessa nd light, dual character, evolution, Genesis, good and evil, ligt of Christ, love, mimetic theory, monotheism, old testament, Original Sin, overcome, Paul, Rene Girard, scripture, sin, the fall, transcendence, wrathful god
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The clayboy, Doug Chaplin, recently wrote a thought-provoking post on original sin and evolution. He entitled it ‘No Adam, No Fall’, because it struggled with the Pauline concept that that Adam’s failure was a decisive moment in history. I’ll be quoting exhaustively, because I loved some of what Doug said.
I note Paul’s method. He re-reads the earlier story in the light of Christ. He does this with most things. I wonder what ways are open to us if we take that method seriously and look at ways of re-reading the whole narrative in the light of Christ, an even more thorough-going move from solution to plight, in the knowledge of creation and evolution that we have subsequently acquired.
I think this is an important thing to realize; Paul’s interpretation of Adam in the light of Christ is something we should attempt to imitate in our own interpretation of the Old Testament. Paul writes many letters, all teaching his followers in the churches how to think theologically, and how to be like Christ. These two things are not entirely separate. But, I think because of the goals of these letters (education), if we disagree with how Paul re-reads the Old Testament, we are not negating God’s inspiration in his letters. Paul wouldn’t have minded if we disagreed with him about Adam, so long as we re-read the fall in the light of Christ. I think the rest of Doug’s provisional thesis is best read in this light.
Sin” (if I may be every bit as anthropomorphic and anachronistic as Richard Dawkins is) is not only in the world long before “Adam”, but is the mechanism whereby Adam’s species can emerge and flourish as the one who is able to name the animals (in increasingly sophisticated taxonomies) and tend to the garden of the earth’s ecosystem (or destroy it).
As regular readers know, I’m a thorough supporter of Rene Girard’s memetic theory as a theory of sin; and of Christ’s sacrifice as a miraculous overcoming of that sin, rather than a satiation of a wrathful God. And hence, I think Doug hits the nail on the head with this: Sin is, in fact, something intrinsic and important to not only our daily lives, but our ancestry, and it is what makes us what we are. We are both very good in the eyes of God (Genesis 1:31), and not (Genesis 2:18).
Creation is what God is about, creating order from chaos, drawing conscious forms of life able to love and praise out of the primordial soup, developing those who will come to find their true selves in the image of the one in whom God encounters his creation. The image of God, revealed in Jesus, is God’s intention for men and women, transcending the selfish gene to live in a self-giving love that mirrors and responds to the love of God.
But, most importantly, God drew us out to overcome this flaw that both made us thrive and (perhaps) disappointed him in us. Through Christ, we can transcend the sin that has made us thrive, we can live in a self-giving love mirror and respond to the love of God. A valuable concept, Doug, and one beautifully put.
Why do I say ‘perhaps’ when it comes to God’s disappointment in us?
…there are indeed those other traditions of the origins of evil in the world which go alongside and beyond the account of Adam, Eve and the serpent. [...] Some of them seem to lay the blame more clearly on God, who makes both darkness and light. I think we need to go back to a fuller exploration of those traditions, and see if they can help enrich our understanding.
I culled a little bit, because I wanted to draw attention to laying the blame more clearly on God. There is certainly testament in scripture to God’s control over both good and evil – and how could there not be, and he still be God? It is something we must live with, if we are to be truly monotheistic in our faith. However, to me this suggests that it is unlikely God was disappointed in us, because that sin that helped us thrive was likely something given to us to overcome. We were made in the image of God, and the eternal presence of sin might be a necessary balance to God’s difficult role as Lord over both good and evil. And yet, God’s to constantly transcend this dual character for good: So too, through Christ, we can transcend our sin, and respond to God’s love.
Thanks for provoking thought, Doug
God is the ground of rationality, the giver of reason February 16, 2009
Posted by Damian in Evolution and Creation.Tags: Church of England, creation, creation science, creationism, Doug Chaplin, evolution, gift of reason, giver of reason, ground of rationality, rationality, reason, Roman Catholic Church, Young
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I cannot beleive there are many people here who do not read Doug Chaplin’s blog, but he wrote the other day about his worry with the rising creationism in secular British schooling:
…when people stop believing in God they will believe in anything. I have often asserted that there is something about believing in God which should lead to rational enquiry into the nature of the universe, because the Christian teaching about God is that God is the ground of rationality, and the giver of the gift of reason. This seems to provide some evidence that believe in God and a rational approach correlate rather more than the atheists would like to believe.
I just wish there were more Christians who had read their bible enough to understand this teaching. It is just as he quoted himself: “There are huge differences between organised religions and disorganised credulity and if we care about truth we should recognise them. The Church of England and the Roman Catholic Church are much clearer about the truth of evolution than the general public.”
Psychology, teliology and evolution December 27, 2008
Posted by Damian in Evolution and Creation, Psychology and Religion.Tags: adults, alzheimers, berkley science review, children, cognition, cognitive, creationism, evolution, Intelligent Design, lombrozo, psychology, religion, science, tania lombrozo, teliology
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I’m going to present a few quotes from a Berkley Science Review article entitled ‘Psychology and Teliology’. Please bear with me:
On young children: Young children often explain the existence of objects and phenomena with reference to their function, a kind of reasoning termed teleological. Ask a three-year old why it rains, for example, and you are likely to hear something like “so that plants have water to grow.” Likewise, lions exist “for going to the zoo,” and mountains “are for climbing.” This tendency of children to infer design suggests an explanatory default: In the absence of competing knowledge, the best explanation for an object with a plausible function is that it was designed to fulfill that function.
Experiments on Alzheimer patients suggest that: “…adults and children have the same sorts of cognitive mechanisms at work, and that adults are just overriding the explanatory default with background knowledge,” says Lombrozo. They also fit in with findings from other studies that show more frequent use of teleological explanations in less educated adults, and in educated adults making speeded judgments.
The study suggests: These results may help explain why intelligent design and creationism — teleological arguments that suggest we exist in our current form because we were designed to do so — continue to be so pervasive in today’s society.
Now, I’m quite candidly an theistic evolutionist. I’ve written on my views and my reasons for holding them in the past (here for all my posts and here for a summary of my beliefs and reasons). However, I have to say I find this article offensive. It arrogantly suggests that those who don’t believe in evolution are childish, immature, badly educated and at worse, mentally disabled. What’s worse is that it implies – by saying that they cannot overcome their evolutionary programming – that those who don’t believe in evolution are less than human.
The thing is, by its own arguments, the study is saying that people are this way because it’s functional:
“…it’s more effective. We’re going to learn more about the world if we go around assuming that things have functions and then sometimes discovering we were wrong, rather than the reverse.”
I find it odd that here we have a suggestion that mature creatures, adept at surviving, learn to suppress their evolutionary instincts. To me it makes more sense to suggest that moving beyond teleological explanations is itself a relatively recent evolutionary adaptation, an adult cognitive development, that serves its own purpose. It avoids the arrogance that implies that a large percentage of the population (over 40%, according to the same article) are subhuman, and rather would claim that, as all evolutionary adaptations, it is simply something that has occurred, with no reason to elevated or degraded apart from the long term achievement of survival.
Just as I resent religion that arrogantly disregards science, I resent science that arrogantly derides religion.
What kind of bizarre God gets his act together in the last 2 percent of human history? September 23, 2008
Posted by Damian in Evolution and Creation.Tags: An absentee God, Creation of an Evolutionist, Dinesh D'Souza, evolution, God, history, Mike Beidler, prehistory, timing
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Mike over at Creation of an Evolutionist pointed out this article by Dinesh D’Souza, called ‘An absentee God?’ In this article, Dinesh describes how came across this argument by an atheist that he couldn’t answer:
Homo sapiens has been on the planet for a long time, let’s say 100,000 years. Apparently for 95,000 years God sat idly by, watching and perhaps enjoying man’s horrible condition. After all, cave-man’s plight was a miserable one: infant mortality, brutal massacres, horrible toothaches, and an early death. Evidently God didn’t really care.
Then, a few thousand years ago, God said, “It’s time to get involved.” Even so God did not intervene in one of the civilized parts of the world. He didn’t bother with China or Egypt or India. Rather, he decided to get his message to a group of nomadic people in the middle of nowhere. It took another thousand years or more for this message to get to places like India and China.
God seems to have been napping for 98 percent of human history, finally getting his act together only for the most recent 2 percent? What kind of a bizarre God acts like this?
The article shows how Dinesh answers this argument (I’ve fudged the quotes a little, so they flow more. To read the originals, click the link above):
It is not the number of years but the levels of human population that are the issue here. The Population Reference Bureau estimates that the number of people who have ever been born is approximately 105 billion. Of this number, about 2 percent were born in the 100,000 years before Christ came to earth. If God’d come earlier in human history, how reliable would the records of his relationship with man be? But He showed up just before the exponential explosion in the world’s population, so even though 98 percent of humanity’s timeline had passed, only 2 percent of humanity had previously been born, so 98 percent of us have walked the earth since the Redemption.
I appreciate this one; thanks to Mike for pointing it out to me.
Wise words from the Vatican observatory September 13, 2008
Posted by Damian in Biblical Exegesis and Interpretation, Evolution and Creation.Tags: Consolmagno, Dawkins, faith, God, Insight Scoop, Richard Dawkins, science, Siris, Vatican, Vatican Observatory
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A nice quote I found on an article here, through this post here, which I found through this post, here:
“The idea that the universe is worth studying just because it’s worth studying is a religious idea,” Consolmagno says. “If you think the universe is fundamentally good and that it’s an expression of a good God, then studying how the universe works is a way of becoming intimate with the Creator. It’s a kind of worship. And that’s been a big motivation for doing any kind of science.”
I think this is really nice. Then, in the same article, there’s a reply to a Dawkin’s quote:
“I did not tell Richard Dawkins that there was no reason to believe in God,” says Coyne, who counts Dawkins a friend. “I said reasons are not adequate. Faith is not irrational, it is arational; it goes beyond reason. It doesn’t contradict reason. So my take is precisely that faith, to me, is a gift from God. I didn’t reason to it, I didn’t merit it – it was given to me as a gift through my family and my teachers…. My science helps to enrich that gift from God, because I see in his creation what a marvelous and loving god he is. For instance, by making the universe an evolutionary universe – he didn’t make it a ready-made, like a washing machine or a car – he made it a universe that has in it a participation of creativity. Dawkins’s real question to me should be, ‘How come you have the gift of faith and I don’t?’ And that’s an embarrassment for me. The only thing I can say is that either you have it and don’t know it, or God works with each of us differently, and God does not deny that gift to anybody. I firmly believe that.”
Emphasis is mine. There are two things here I think are marvellous. Firstly the clarification that faith does not contradict reason, but rather goes beyond it. I like it when people say things eloquently.
The reason I highlighted the second part, was because I was impressed by the man’s humility. In the comments at Insight Scoop, “Joe” [Edit: I attributed this quote incorrectly. Apologies to all involved.] said:
He must be related to Rowan Williams for all his double-talk. A Vatican scientist who can’t bring himself to say the Heavens declare the glory of God, and who is happy zinging Fundamentalists instead.
I disagree. This didn’t seem like double-talk to me. It seemed like Coyne was saying that the heaven’s declare the glory of God, and that he’s humble enough to admit that he doesn’t know the whole story – that he doesn’t know why Dawkins doesn’t have the gift of faith, and he does.
And I love me some good humility.


